Sunday, January 07, 2007

He Can Dish It Out, But Can He Take It?

Apparently not! In reaction to my previous blog post "Mixed Feelings on Ridor's Donation Requests," the subject of that posting sent me several instant messages filled with colorful and insulting language. Due to the nature of those unsolicted communications, I decline to publish them publicly on a family-friendly website.

Unless he can pull in substantially more than the average $200 a month he admits to receiving, I stand behind my position that he should get a "real" job with benefits, meaning that someone should hire him (I asked why hasn't anyone hired him yet. Based on his saga earlier of what happened when he lost a chance for a job in Richmond, I was certainly under the impression that he did not have a "real" job.)! What does $200 a month pay for? It certainly is not enough for a mortgage, rent on an apartment, food for a month, clothing, a car, health insurance, life insurance, and all the other basic necessities of life.

He can *try* to make a living as a blogger, without needing social security (I do not know if he receives SSDI and it is none of my business. But we all know that deaf people who lose jobs are entitled to SSDI). It will be difficult and very challenging for him to make a comfortable living out of blogging alone. At some point, a "real job" may be necessary.

I do read RidorLive. I believe his blog would be even better if he had financial security. That kind of financial security usually comes only with a "real" job.

Last but not least, what an honor to be blasted publicly on RidorLive! Does this mean I have finally arrived as a blogger in the deaf community? I'm now in the same class as Mike ("Kokonut Pundits") McConnell?

This is the official end to the current saga for me. I have better things to blog on, and I'm sure he does too.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

what I DON'T understand is that you neglect the fact that Mike (Kokonut) asked for the donation as well (*cough* for a piano...*cough*). And yet you throw a tantrum about Ridor? I'm not a fan of Ridor but your hypocrisy bothers me greatly.

So could you please give us the reason why you didn't throw a tantrum about Kokonut's donation or the donation for DeafRead, for that matter like you did with the "Ridor" case?

Steve Baier. said...

Anonymous: I am fully shocked that Mike of Kokonut was advertising that he was looking for donations because he makes his career of selling ragtime songs.

and hearing of DeafRead wanting donations? That's weird. I checked the site and nope.. HAWK RELAY supports that site! (thta takes the wind out of Jamie's sales a bit).

As for ridor, there are some professional bloggers out there. Of course, xanga has been begging me for money since they want me to upgrade to the better services, but hey.. I don't mind about advertisements. But the day I decide to become a professional blogger and begging for money.. that will be the day I'd have to file with the IRS of what I do with that money I get from my site. And that's a bitch of accounting life. ICK.

So let ridor do what he wants, professional blog or a job. But in the end, everyone has an opinion to advertise. and then some. (chuckle). As I said on my site..
put jamie and ridor in a virtual room and let me have a good cyber blogging fight. A battle I'd love to make money off both of them *evil chuckle*.

Banjo said...

"Steve Baier: and hearing of DeafRead wanting donations? That's weird. I checked the site and nope.. HAWK RELAY supports that site! (thta takes the wind out of Jamie's sales a bit)"

Actually, it's true. Deafread did ask for donations after suddenly becoming popular and they had no sponsors at the time. Then Hawk Relay stepped in and offered to sponsor the site. Pretty much the best thing that could had happened to them.

It was reasonable for them to ask for donations at the time when they were looking for sponsors. The costs were rising at a rapid pace as the site's popularity exploded.

Now they don't have anything to worry about because they're now sponsored.

Lantana said...

>Grin< "Mike of Kokonut", that is a perfect typo! Thanks for the idea, "Anonymous Evil Chuckle". 'Often a typo turns out to be much more useful than anything we can think up on our own.

And as for "Ragtime", the only kind I know of is the one that we women put up with each month.

:))

Mike McConnell said...

Well, for one. I don't plead for donation to make a living or to help pay for internet cost, yada, yada, yada. What I put up for those who do enjoy reading my blog to buy one of my Cafepress products. When I first put it up, I didn't expect anything out of it in terms of generating cash. I still don't. Being the curious type, I put up the "donation" page just to see what the response would be like. I don't expect anything out of my "donation" page but I do plan on attending the Ragtime Festival in Sedalia, Missouri. One of the home of Scott Joplin.
http://www.scottjoplin.org/biography.htm

There ARE deaf/hh people who do play musical instruments and I'm not alone in this.

Next, I don't care for people putting up donation page. They have their reason for doing so. And if people don't want to donate or, in this case, buy a product, then that's their decision.

Lastly, to Steve Baier. I don't sell Ragtime songs. I play them for enjoyment!! I've been playing the piano since I was 7 years old. My career is with the Forest Service.
http://kokonutpundits.blogspot.com/2006/09/kokonut-goes-fire-fighting-in.html

Anonymous said...

There were Trump-Rosie feud.

Now, there are Ridor-Jaime feud.

*)%#$^*

Mikey said...

jamie...

what's your point about ridor?
If you have a beef to pick on him, do it privately.
I have no interest hearing about ridor's personal stuff...that's not my business nor yours.

can you just focus on what you can do best as a blogger... competition is healthy.

you also have to admit you don't have ridor quality just like anybody else. everyone's unique in their own right.

may i suggest that you let go of that issue. it's something we all don't benefit from. if you don't donate, that's fine. if you do, that's fine. what we do is our business, not others.

thanks for hearing me out.

Lantana said...

"Mikey": >Jamie already said that she was not going to go further with this subject.<

To most of us, blogging is a hobby or something to kill time, NOT a way to earn a living. College educated deafies need to have a REAL JOB for no better reason than to pay the government back for
the free education. And perhaps to build one's own self esteem. Strong deaf role models are the only way to pull us away from the "disadvantaged" category.

Dianrez said...

Berke's point that one needs to have an independent source of income, i.e. a job in order to maintain a blogger's veracity and professionalism is valid. If one depends on donations, there is the danger that a blogger could be influenced by a donor (or advertiser).

Anonymous said...

WOW! I think some of the more umm, err Ridor supporters need to read Berke's comment again. Not only that, but if they're scolding Berke, why arent they scolding Ridor? At least she has class!

As for Kokonut Pundit, Mike's asking for donations for a piano was a !@#$%^ joke! It was done for fun! Some of us got a good kick out of that! Please check before you make ignorant accusations!

Congratulations Jaime, in ending this dialogue with your title....HE CAN DISH IT OUT, BUT HE CAN'T TAKE IT?

Ahhhhhhhh what goes around comes around!

Anonymous said...

Jamie and Ridor,

What happened? I thought you guys were cool with each other? Ridor, calling Jamie a liar was too strong and you should know better than to accuse her of slander and libel. She was simply expressing her opinion in a candid way.

Jamie, I personally don't see anything wrong with asking for donations, as long as one's open and honest about how donated money will be used. I would have an issue if the guy says this is for a cause but uses the money for his own needs. Whatever the case I would prefer to donate money to a worthy or noble cause than donate to fuffill a man's need for a vacation or a piano. If the blogger wants to raise funds to cover costs of maintaining his website, advertisement or sponsorship may be the best way to go. But then as Dianrez pointed out, the blogger's opinion may be influenced by the advertiser or donor. It is entirely up to the blogger how to market his website, and he should know the risks associated with professional blogging. Such is life in a modern Internet-age capitalistic society.

Last, Jamie, I think you were one of the most professional bloggers I've ever seen when you started with Mining.com. I haven't seen any other blogger treat people or subjects with respect and courtesy as you did. Stay that way. You've come a long way - why be different? You're a champ blogger indeed! Don't let other people get you down. :D

Anonymous said...

Steve Baier: it seems to me that you're a newcomer. Read Banjo's post for the history of DeafRead.

At 10:15 PM, Anonymous said: "Not only that, but if they're scolding Berke, why arent they scolding Ridor?"

Speak for yourself, wanker. If they (or you)'re scolding Ridor, Berke or whoever, why aren't you scolding Mike (Kokonut) too?

Oh right, you're a Kokonut shill. Gods forbid! [[roll eyes]] Oh no, your stupidity kills me! By the way, I'm not a Ridor supporter so no cigar for you, sorry bub.

Jamie, I'm still waiting for the explanation why you didn't throw a tantrum about Kokonut or DeafRead. Time is money, you know.

Anonymous said...

I am pretty good shocked what mike said. Thank God . I haven’t given them donation for no reason. How does Ricky afford to buy the tickets or the hotel or the restaurant Deaf Olympics in Utah?

I had a bad experienced about Ricky attacked me to free speech in his blog. It seemed not to be professional his appropriate behavior. That’s why I can’t give him donation.

Floridagirl

Anonymous said...

Busted!

Anonymous #5-you're none other than Ricky Taylor. Only YOU would be insulting like that. LOL! Your language is the same as it is on your blogsite, so give it up!

You pissed because people dont support you? Ah Pity! Enjoy your blog life while you can. You are slowly fading away, and quality people, quality bloggers who are honest, civil, and respectful, will be the people to read. Thank God for DeafRead!

By the way, where are your Bay area friends? Havent seen a peep out of them. They used you for their own needs, then when they're done with you, discarded you like the trash you are. Thats how they operate.

What goes around comes around. You deserve it Ricky!

Peggy said...

I am going to share my perspective here.

Whether anyone donated or not it’s none of anybody’s business. Keep in mind, you are NOT REQUIRED to donate not only to Ricky, but the others as well. It is YOUR choice.

If you, in general, want newspapers, you pay for it. If you don’t, you don’t get newspapers. If you want to go to the concert, you pay for it. If you don’t, the concert will be cancelled. If you want to fly, you pay for it. If you don’t, the plane flies without you *shrugs* If you enjoy Ricky’s blog, please help donate; otherwise, he won’t be here to entertain you all. Remember, nothing is free nowadays.

Someone told Ricky to get a real job. Yes, Ricky could get a job as a blogger for any company, but that means he will be put on restrictions out of fear of being sued. The company wouldn’t want to lose millions of $$$. That means he can’t be himself in his blog. Even though I met him briefly at the Gallaudet protest last October, I don’t think he would appreciate being restricted! :-) It’s best that he be an independent blogger firing away anything he wants to.

Stop being pathetic and leave Ricky alone! He is doing a fantastic job as a blogger! I prefer his blog over all the blogs I visited. He keeps his blog simple, sweet, short, and straight to the point. There IS a difference between rude and blunt, and Ricky is only being straightforward. If you can’t stand his brutal honesty, don’t visit his blog!

From my past personal experiences, those who stab Ricky in his back are just plain jealous of his success. If you are jealous of him, put away your cheese and “whine,” get busy, and revamp your blog or do something productive in your lives!

Sheesh!

Peggy said...

For those who criticized Ricky’s English, hold your pants! Ricky did mention to you all a while ago at his blog that his English is not perfect. At least he has been honest with you all so there is no reason for you to bark at him to improve his English. I have read most blogs, and I have to say Ricky’s English is a lot better than theirs. Yes, he does make mistakes, but hey, you all make mistakes, too!

For the anonymous poster who was puzzled about the relationship between Jamie and Ricky, Ricky didn't accuse Jamie of being a liar. He was surprised and very disappointed that Jamie twisted his words out of context. Didn't you read that part under "Mixed Feelings...?" Go back and re-read.

Someone brought up elsewhere that Jamie comes from a well-to-do family. If that is a fact, she shouldn't insult Ricky. Ricky is not the only blogger getting by with donations. I see nothing wrong with donating Ricky money. He is doing a great job, and I enjoy his blog tremendously. Yes, I made donations as he deserves them!

Pointing fingers at people is SO old! *gags*

Grow up, will y'all!

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Ricky said...

RidorLIVE's comments is under moderation? Please. it is not under moderation like you claimed it to be.

R-

merfz in da h00d said...

you know, i was the person who encouraged him to start a blog. i knew it'd reach such proportions but not just how.

honestly, you're right. i don't agree with anything you've said, but you're right. he has his own (fully operational) website with moderators, hackers, and coding gurus at the ready. i'm glad ridor is is starting to create some more energy; he's garnering attention his way, and damned if you like it, damned if you don't. (as in, you're damned. with horns and militant fingerprints and shit.)

so...what...about...this?

if ridor generates, say, 100 unique visitors a month, and each pays $30 a year for all this plus, say, a free t-shirt with each renewal, that's $3K. so $36K a year. that's enough for everything, even basic expenses; as he expands he can afford to pay his employees.

also, there'll be the healthy sprinkle of curious viewers, so some things will be free and there will be a trial $5 48-hour fee; that way people can keep coming back without a membership.

yeah, kinda like, he's just a book with infinite chapters. he's a comic book, even. maybe just the garden of zen raging molecules.

anyway, yeah. cool.

merfz in da h00d said...

oops. of course--i knew i'd said that wrong. if he generates 100 unique visitors a month and the FIRST 100 pay for a membership. after that, you know....

heh.

Anonymous said...

I am very curious; can anybody find out about the beg for donations law?

Susan Chevallier is a totally deaf woman who can sign ASL fluently, can speak, and has three deaf siblings. She is great painting horsemen or knights. You read Ricky wrote bad things about her.

“Fernandes’ right eye winced a little while u see the fist in the center- it looks like one was masturbating and splat the sperm on her right eye- you can see the blue background as the one that rolls onto her face.”

http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-12-29/fernandes-a-knight-in-disguise/

Anonymous said...

Anyone can ask for donations, and you can donate to anyone you like, but unless that organisation is recognized as not for profit, you can't claim it on your income taxes as charitable donations.

Also, Ricky would have to pay taxes on the donations, since he is not a non-profit organisation, and self-employment taxes are very high.

I think if Ricky makes enough to maintain his site and have a little spending money, he's doing pretty damn good. Though, I do think he should stop begging for donations, and maybe put a little link that explains why people should give to him. It IS obnoxious to do it so often, and it DOES put people in mind of peddlers.

I don't see anything wrong with Ricky's English. Everyone makes mistakes in their writing from time to time. I've seen hearing writers make worse mistakes than Ricky does. Also, if you consider the fact that English is not his first language, then his writing is nothing short of excellent. The folks bagging on his writing are probably just jealous.

Anonymous said...

2:50 PM anonymous

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Anonymous said...

To At 10:38 AM, Anonymous said...:

"Anonymous #5-you're none other than Ricky Taylor."

Wow, I'm right. Your stupidity kills me. No, I'm not Ridor. Moron. Everyone insults everyone. A question for you, do you use your brain or do you sit on it?

Jamie, you had updated your blog entry and you STILL don't answer my question. I'm waiting. Here's my promise: I'll ask you in every new entry you make until you finally throw a tantrum about others.

Peter64 said...

I entirely agree with Jamie.

I think that those supporters of Ridor need to ccol off first, then they should take a deep breathe and then they should read again, slowly, veery slowly.

I am the only who see no slander?

Or maybe I'm deaf and blind. ;)

PS: A big tempest in a teapot, and time to move on.

No time to waste on childish behaviors.