I just watched Seek Geo's latest (thankfully captioned) vlog, "Why Do You Need an Interpreter?" and it made me think of a couple of questions. First, why was such an intelligent deaf man with good English skills applying for a job in a warehouse?
Perhaps I am naive. I work in Washington, DC, an area where most of the deaf people I know are highly educated professionals with good jobs. We do have the benefit of the Federal government as one of the largest if not the largest employer of deaf people locally and regionally. Thus, it is probably easier for deaf people in metro DC to find jobs than it is elsewhere in the country. You might say that I openly admit to having the same problem that our Washington politicians have - lack of awareness of what real life is like beyond the Beltway.
I reviewed Seek Geo's profile on his website. According to his About Seek Geo page, he did attend Long Island University for two years before having to leave due to finances. That was it as far as higher education. So Seek Geo never got a bachelor's degree. This is probably putting him at a disadvantage, limiting him to warehouse type jobs when someone with his intelligence and skills would do well in a professional white collar job.
In addition, could another aspect of the problem be that hearing people beyond the beltway are less educated, less aware, and less tolerant? Something like that would probably never happen here in metro DC, which is loaded with highly educated, sometimes overpaid, hearing professionals. Deafness a safety issue for the job? I'll bet this "Cathy" he mentioned on the video does not have a college education, is young, and relatively unskilled.
My second thought was, if the United States economy slides into a recession, how is this going to impact deaf people? If past history is any indication, probably not much difference at all. I have seen deaf people have difficulty finding employment in both good economic times and bad economic times.
Thursday, January 10, 2008
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Hey!
Just wanted to say thank you! :-)
Actually, to begin with I have been working for Health care in past 6 years and in fact, I was senior lead of the department for two years but I had to resigned last year which I will explain in video one of these days once I am completely done with that company.
It is really a long story but I must tell you it was really ugly especially the way how they treated me so when I resigned my management position, I transferred to Billing Dept only to gain my experience.
After working there for a year in Billing Dept, I realized that I am almost never being happy working in an office because when I was a senior lead, I worked 50-60 hours a week and yet the way how they treated me even in Billing Dept, these people were giving me a hard life.
So really, Jes and I talked about it and I realized that it's better off for me to stay away from offices since I've been around in offices for years. That's why I'm looking around for either warehouses or working with patients like therapy, etc.
I'm open to anything but try to stay away from offices where I have to deal all craps. Of course, if I have no choice, I will just apply for office job at any medical supplier companies if I must.
Hope that makes sense? :-)
Good post!
-SG
Oh, also I must add.. I used to work in warehouse and I actually did enjoy it so that's why I am looking for warehouse as well as for therapy, caregiver jobs right now and see if I can land one of these.
But, of course it is no easy cuz I live in small town. *sighs*
-SG
Good thoughts, Berke.
If "Cathy" is a high school student, then, she will have a long way to get there.
If "Cathy's" college-degree is switching into the vocational degree, then, employees at the warehouse did not learn about the discrimination stuff.
That is how the world is upside down nowadays.....
White Ghost
You wrote (with brimming pride even if I know you don't identify yourself with the Washingtonian Deaf Establishment), "Most of the deaf people I know are highly educated professionals with good jobs."
That remark left me chuckling. In my opinion, this is one of the lamest stereotypes about deaf working professionals in the DC area if not beyond.
Please do me a favor. Define in greater details what you perceive as "highly educated professionals with good jobs." What are your standards? 1200+ SATs?
Have you gone to Deaf Professional Happy Hour? Have you noticed the dire scarcity of deaf people featured on Websites? Whatever happened to the DeafProfessional.net and Signs of Success sites?
Can the average deaf professional in the DC area truly read especially write at least on grade level? Have you noticed how DeafDC.com discussions are just among a few people? Same old, same old and same old. Just like same old same NAD faces on their Website. This is akin a few holding tea socials.
As a native user of ASL I consider my skill levels to be intermediate when it comes to the three big R's.
During my senior year of high school I was beyond worried I'd not be accepted to Gallaudet only to find out that I was invited to sit-in for the honors exam. A few high school dropouts was in honors program.
What a joke. Is this a standard you're drawing from?
Growing up institutionalized at few deaf schools (they're lousy and will remain until average pupils are widely accepted to reputable public universities) I had enough of these psycho babble coming from often patronizing shrinks and teachers alike telling me that I'm in the top one percentile among deaf people in watered-down testings. Oh, wow, you're extremely so smart. (Oh yeah, :::rolling eyes:::)
All along I was most anxious to find how I stack against the U.S. population. Not deaf. Why this?
Are you comparing just within the deaf population?
If yes, that's the common problem. Many deaf are chickening out when comparing themselves to the big, bad real world out there. They need to raise standards so they can realistically compare and thrive on proper national testing benchmarks.
That's why so many deaf yearn for the security of being employed by corporations forever lactating with Deaf breast milk (Gallaudet and satellites of CSD, Sprint, others), certain government entities friendly towards the deaf.
This kind of complacency is why there hasn't been a Deaf CEO of a Fortune 500 company. Haven't there?
Realistically, the functionally intelligent deaf should pick on their own size-the truly global mainstream.
You need to understand that many professionals in the DC area are overly publicized by employers in either public or private sectors. This kind reeks of tokenism. So many are patronized and paraded around like "poster children" to point they appear to be the normal deaf person whereas they're not.
This is just one of many reasons deaf schools, stand-alone deaf/HH mainstreaming programs, Gallaudet and NTID needs to upgrade academics.
Don't lower your standards. Don't ever water down.
hmm i liked what anon said up there; its true, our standards are watered down, but i disagree with anon about one glaring point:
Its not US, its the system.
The system is watered down and reduced the standards for us. Imagine how much more intelligence our community would have if deaf education makes improvements.
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not to be hopeless for the rest of us older folks; we still have the ability to move up our own way. if the hearies wont let us manage a fortune 500, MAKE YOUR OWN! you can do it.
White Ghost,
Exactly! I agree with you about Cathy's comment is really stink!
SG, he is working so hard to be role to be honesty with Cathy about his idenifty as deaf. She is idiot about asked him "Why do you need a interpreters?" If he speaking Chinese or something with a voicebox is not working SG might be hearing and required to use ASL. Sound stupidest?
SG is very honesty to explained to Cathy about being honesty by himself.
Kick Cathy's ass out of the business!
I want to add something. Doing some research I came across an observation. An aging vocational (now Applied Studies) facility at Maryland School for the Deaf (a very small school with only about 500 in enrollment at both campuses) is named after none other than the great Veditz. For many years many from MSD didn't have a flying idea of who Veditz is. Not one clue. Even to this day some still don't. How do I know? Part of my big project exposing double standards in the Deaf community, I quizzed many persons from the state-run facilities. What a crock. One individual on the board of trustees of this one power-hungry institution is Dr. Benjamin Bahan, an eminent figure in the Deaf Studies circuit, currently employed at Gallaudet University. Hearing or deaf, vocational/applied studies or academic the above shows ignorance runs both ways. Just thought I'd add to this discussion about lame discrimination.
Hi Geo,
The Deaf community needs you in the future, so please go to your local vocational rehabilitation to apply for Gallaudet or for the NTID. You would be one of the most terrific teachers (and leaders) mostly demanded by signing students! We need more ones like you! Wake up and come to Washington or to Rochester!
I live in Washington D.C. for past 6 months and I do have a BA degree and it had been hell for me to find a decent-paying job in DC with a goal to not be sucked into the federal work force. I do not want to work for the government. I do not feel that I will be happy there and I don't believe my utmost passions will be utilized. Also I do prefer small companies for intimate relationships with my employer and employees.
Just because some people prefer to work in blue-collar force doesn't mean that they are less intelligent or capable. Some people just like to work with their hands.
Unfortunately there are some drawbacks as a blue-collar employee such as long hours, low salary/few benefits and physical exhaustion. But hey, if you love your job, then it is always worthwhile.
I think it is easy to get a job in a small town where Deaf people do not have much competition like in the cities-- and also small town residents are more friendly and understanding while the city slickers are cold-hearted and do not have time to slow down for any Deaf employee.
I think you haven't seen the "other " side of DC among the Deaf employees... so I have to say that your post is pretty biased especially since it is already mentioned that you work for the government. I do know more Deaf people working OUTSIDE of DC (Springfield, Fairfax, Falls Church, Rockville)... the only jobs Deaf people get in DC is for the government-- and I don't blame them-- all of benefits, paid vacation, and federal holidays, woot woot.
I am just not ready to give in and bite the bait. ;-)
Geo is young and strong and vigorous, perhaps the challenge of *physical* work appeals to him right now. He and Jess are where they are only because Jess is in college there and they will move on eventually.
"Just the facts, ma'am". Many, many Gallaudet graduates that I know, some of whom I worked with for 25 years, cannot write simple English. And I know MANY Gallaudet graduates who are living on SSI right now.
Geo is a homeowner, drives a nice car, has great common sense and is one of the nicest people I have ever met.
Lantana
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I would like to say about Geo that I have go through similiar and very harsh for deaf people who really need a job for living. Geo is not depend on SSI.
I agree with Lantana's comment. Geo is sweet and very listen carefully with people so he can deal with Cathy's comment were not acceptable of what she think Deaf person. She would not willing to learn about deaf employee in very small town in Pasco, WA. It is not very many deaf people lives there.
I complete understand that small town is impossible for deaf to lives in small town with no deaf community. he willing to move to small town along with Jes. he choose to staying in Pasco. That's mean Pasco town would reject him because of deaf.
It is been hard time to opening and friendly in Pasco. I don' really know the place very well.
Few month ago, I mentioned to my sister about the deaf people depend on SSI who have struggle their lives because they could not find a job steady. I learn that 70% in US deaf people are unemployed. 70% is kind of large number for deaf into their unemployment. What's wrong with that?
A.D.A. started take serious the new law since 1990. Need education to the business up about need to hire any kind of disabities and Deaf people would not think they are very discrimnation to deaf person or more.
No matter what kind of the person are you think .. Consideration to be label on Deaf as Retarted. It is not acceptable!
You see why Geo have been work more than 40 hour a average. Cathy did not recongized of his work expereinced Geo is effort so hard to be able to educated her. In somewhat he stuck with her attuide.
Within in 10 years if A.D.A would improved for deaf community to work better than 1990-2008? I dont know if the accommodate is improve faster after 2008? Do you think ?
Keep your mind to remind hearing people you need educating them or Find a way to get a job without barrier.
gnarlydorkette, i think jamie berke was referring to the Capitol Region which includes areas far beyond more than what you cited. think martinsburg, w.va. directly accessible by MARC from the Union Station.
Gnarly, we know what Jamie was referring to. Jamie's nose is out of joint (and eventually it will catch up with her). Either that or her English skills lack the ability to soften up what might be harsh words.
This gal needs to get off of her high horse!
Lantana
Do you think its good idea to post his whole job and educational history on this blog. Future boss or supervisor will reading all this stuff.
Not very smart. Sorry.
Anonymous,
It's okay since she's not using his real name online. "Geo" is smart enough not to reveal his first and last name.
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